Ok well i am working on a windows application called RCDmaker, which will make a version of an app called Round Cube Desktop or RCD for short, basically what it means is someone who has roundcube webmail installed can download RCDmaker (for free) and make a version of RCD that will connect directly to their RoundCube installation, so people can access their roundcube outside of a web browser, or so it seems, actually it uses the IE core under the .NET Framework 2.0 to display their round cube site in a window that does not have all the browsing options of IE, so its mail only. I plan on releasing RCDmaker in a few days and thought i should post about it here to let you all know, and for the programmers here, it will be released under GPL and the source will be online for anyone to contribute to once the first version is released.